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TURN Masters Series 2015: Season 1 - Q&A

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:04 am
by XessIV
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Do you have a question about the Masters Series? If so please post it and we will we will strive to answer it.

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:58 am
by XessIV

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:42 am
by Daytona Dreams
Just a quick question in regards to a point raised in a stewards enquiry. It says that a driver didnt call out a pass over the mic, i these days have the mic muted, three dogs, two kids, one at six months old and my magic power machine which keeps my body working, means i dont live in a quiet house, i also mute alot of game chatter as people chat during the races, it might not be a lot, or often, but it does happen, like it should, afterall its a game and people like to talk about the racing, during the racing, i choose not to and mute them.

So basically, im not going to be calling out a pass ever, why should i give the person im trying to overtake the advantage of knowing where i am, thus able to defend or block, although granted i dont do much overtaking these days, not that you would hear much in many cases, the only chat these days is apologies if i make a mistake, but thats just good manners if im in the wrong and this may also be sent by a pm after the race if im unable to apologize at the time due to the noise levels.

So am i now in the wrong here that i choose not to announce a pass? I know oval racing has spotters and with good reasons that are fairly obvious, but doesnt passing come under racecraft on a racetrack, working over the opposition into a mistake to get past, in the same way defending your position is racecraft.

I should point out, i havent looked at the incident in which the punishment has been dealt, just surprised by the comment of a steward saying

A functioning microphone is one of the requirements of being able to race at TURN, and must be used to avoid incidents such as this from happening.


Alos if this is the case, does this mic rule count for community races held on TURN or just official events?

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:56 am
by HüdechGaming
A lot of times people are oblivious to the fact they are being passed. This isn't a league or series that have paid or semi amateur drivers, so they aren't as fine tuned to their surroundings, a lot of the time their preferred camera angle is crap for that kinda thing.

Hence this is why this rule is in effect.

We understand your situation, as its the case with a lot of people. We would encourage you to just toggle the mute key just for calling passes out.

Otherwise you may be eligible for a warning or penalty as was the case with the most recent inquiry.

Hope this helps.

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:41 am
by Daytona Dreams
A lot of times people are oblivious to the fact they are being passed.


Well shouldnt they have some idea of their surroundings, you dont need to be paid or semi pro, its just common sense, simple racecraft.

Should i expect to have a mic check before the start of every race and also how can you prove that nothing was said, is this another job for the lobby host amongst the many jobs they already have? What about bad connections, lag and other situations which happen to everyone at some point, will this also result in a penalty when you may be attempting to call out a pass but it doesnt come across due to a slight conflict. Also the first couple of laps may see more than two drivers trying to overtake, would the weakest voice be penalized as well.

I fully understand when lapping back markers, i know i always make an effort in that department, but while your racing for position?? Isnt that removing the close racing element from the equation?

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:36 am
by F4H Lightning
All we're asking from people is to exercise some common sense.

Yes, a mic check will be performed at the start of official races, just like it was done in the VM days, to ensure that everybody can communicate as need be. As stated in the Steward's Inquiry, we had confirmation from multiple sources that nothing was said over the game chat at the time of the incident. We wish to encourage close racing, while at the same time preventing the giant pileups that could occur because somebody didn't say they were inside of another driver when room was limited.

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:01 pm
by F4H Diablo
Daytona Dreams wrote:Just a quick question in regards to a point raised in a stewards enquiry. It says that a driver didnt call out a pass over the mic, i these days have the mic muted, three dogs, two kids, one at six months old and my magic power machine which keeps my body working, means i dont live in a quiet house, i also mute alot of game chatter as people chat during the races, it might not be a lot, or often, but it does happen, like it should, afterall its a game and people like to talk about the racing, during the racing, i choose not to and mute them.

So basically, im not going to be calling out a pass ever, why should i give the person im trying to overtake the advantage of knowing where i am, thus able to defend or block, although granted i dont do much overtaking these days, not that you would hear much in many cases, the only chat these days is apologies if i make a mistake, but thats just good manners if im in the wrong and this may also be sent by a pm after the race if im unable to apologize at the time due to the noise levels.

So am i now in the wrong here that i choose not to announce a pass? I know oval racing has spotters and with good reasons that are fairly obvious, but doesnt passing come under racecraft on a racetrack, working over the opposition into a mistake to get past, in the same way defending your position is racecraft.

I should point out, i havent looked at the incident in which the punishment has been dealt, just surprised by the comment of a steward saying

A functioning microphone is one of the requirements of being able to race at TURN, and must be used to avoid incidents such as this from happening.


Alos if this is the case, does this mic rule count for community races held on TURN or just official events?


No one in their right mind forces 3 wide going into that uphill right before the fast chicane at Catalunya National. Me and Raceboy BOTH had to get on the brakes to avoid crashing. It's one thing to do that in a hairpin, but certainly not there. Hell I never even pass there unless I completely have the position before the turn, because it's a dangerous spot to pass.

Gearhead then divebombed INTO the fast chicane where you should NOT be passing. Of course Stingray didn't give room. Where was he going to go? The grass? No. Tap your brakes and fall in line like everyone else does, to avoid wrecking the other guy. You go single file through there or it ends up in tears, talented racers or not. The next corner is a bloody hairpin, a perfect passing opportunity. Straight up, don't make passes in that chicane. 95% they end up with someone flying off the track and look what happened here? 3 people go flying.

And so we are clear, lag literally had nothing to do with those incidents. Call it what you want, but Gearhead should not have been in either position in the first place.

So, to answer your question: Calling out all passes isn't 100% required. By rule, yes, but most of us are experienced racers and don't need to, we already know what's happening. However, certain circumstances require communication to ensure that avoidable collisions are avoided.

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:34 pm
by HüdechGaming
Look, we made our decision in regards to the incident, so if we can refrain from talking about it (since it's moot at this point) that would be much appreciated.

Like you said, there are people that are aware of what is going on around their car, and there are others don't as I have said before. That rule is in place to make things SAFER all around, not easier or harder for it to pass. That is the position that we as stewards and at TURN will take.

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:18 pm
by Raceboy77
Hey guys, I was wondering if there's any official clarification for the prizes yet? I know there was a semi-announced thing on twitter but the prizes section is still a "Work in progress" under rules. Thanks!

Re: TURN Master Series 1 Q&A

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:55 pm
by Trash McNish
Umm it should of been amended but yes prizes are ...
For each region FM6 credits
1st 500.000cr
2nd 250.000cr
3rd 100.000cr

And for the series finale a FM6 season pass.